More AF Corsair Repaints

[bentwing]

Fantastic work!

[noddy]

Going to reinstall this now, for these glorious paints.

[ejoiner]

Here are some test shots of some repaints, for the Aircraft Factory Corsair, which should be available soon.

This first one depicts an FG-1D that was operated by the Naval Air Reserve at NAS Minneapolis (what is today MSP International).

JT, I purchased this aircraft and have installed your beautiful repaints! Great stuff!!

Now, howzabout doing up this one since you have a lot of the base work already done? This is one I illustrated 30 years ago on canvas, so she is close to my heart! (Note the image below is not my work.)

[big-mike]

Thank you so much for your lovely paints,John.
I enjoy them very much!
Mike

[Bomber_12th]

BTW, anyone knew to this aircraft, I also have a couple other repaints I released earlier this year, in the form of jt_cors_n72nw.zip (Olympic Flight Museum) and jt_cors_n209tw.zip (Texas Flying Legends). For both of those, you'll also want to install the update I released for them, jt_cors_updates.zip (all available here and at Flightsim.com). Also, there are tons of repaints from Jan Kees available here and at OZx, and some other fantastic repaints by Martial Feron and Todd Disrud available at Flightsim.com.

Eric, that paint scheme of the "NAS Olathe" Corsair has actually already been done, very well, by Todd Disrud, and you can find the repaint at Flightsim.com as f4u1d_olathe.zip. Give it a try, and see what you think.

[gray eagle]

John,

Did the Black Sheep ever use these colors/markings back in their day?

"Butch"

[fxsttcb]

Yep. Here's a shot from 1950...Don
http://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Corsairs/...p-1950-01.html

[Bomber_12th]

They certainly did, after WWII, in this case October 1950 (Korean War), with F4U-4 Corsairs. The VMF-214 "Blacksheep Squadron" didn't end with WWII, and that squadron still continues to this day, operating Harriers presently. These markings specifically are those of Lt. Joe Bibby, circa October 1950, operating off of the USS Sicily. If you didn't read my early description, this is how the F4U-4 owned/operated by the Friedkin family/Comanche Fighters is painted. http://militaryaviationjournal.com/2...-mcas-yuma.htm

Here are some photos of VMF-214 Corsairs from the same time period, as well as a photo of the original/specific aircraft (after it came to grief) - note the same VMF-214 badge on the cowl in the first photo:

[gray eagle]

Yep. Here's a shot from 1950...Don
http://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Corsairs/...p-1950-01.html

Thanks Don and John for the info

This is one of the coolest paints for the F-4 Corsair that I have seen so far. Thank you John for a wonderful job! "Butch"

[Bomber_12th]

Here are some more photos of the real restored aircraft, leading the Horsemen aerobatic team in their Navy demo from a few years back (back when Jim Beasley was still part of the team - I still recall Jim mentioning that the Corsair can make just about any pilot's landing look good, as it is almost impossible to bounce, as those long landing gear oleos absorb so much and slowly settle):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/john_lackey/12196551904
https://www.flickr.com/photos/robert...azo/5875768666
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rwleslie58/5013590508
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rwleslie58/5012987081
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikelynaugh/5014950792
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rwleslie58/5013593602

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft...00575846L.html

[DaveB]

I still recall Jim mentioning that the Corsair can make just about any pilot's landing look good, as it is almost impossible to bounce, as those long landing gear oleos absorb so much and slowly settle):

This is one aspect of the real aircraft obviously missed by the Aircraft Factory team!

ATB
DaveB

[Bomber_12th]

This is one aspect of the real aircraft obviously missed by the Aircraft Factory team!

That is the reason why I've had to laugh everytime someone has stated (either in a review, or on the forums) that they felt that the flight dynamics must be quite accurate because they've bounced it on landing. : ) In reality, that was only a problem with the very earliest of Corsairs, and by the time of the F4U-1A, -1D, and subsequent variants, the landing gear had a much more cushioning effect. You'll see that the landing gear on the Corsair differs than you see on other warbirds, as when they're on the ground, with the full weight of the aircraft on the gear, the oleos are completely compressed, and they are intended to be that way using the full-throw of the oleo.

Edit: You can see this in action, very clearly, in this classic "Roaring Glory" video on the Planes of Fame F4U-1A, when Steve is landing the aircraft (after about 20:23): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nubn_QpkHnI

[Bomber_12th]

For the flight dynamics with the stock AF Corsair, I use those released by Fliger747, available here in the SOH file library, the file name: Air File for Milviz_A2A Corsair.zip (or you can simply search for Fliger747 and it will come up at the top)

Those were the flight dynamics which were originally supposed to be released with the aircraft (when under the management of MilViz), but for some reason were vastly modified in the AF release. However, they don't work correctly, as they are when downloaded, as some of the sections of the Aircraft.cfg file have to be changed to reflect some of the changes to the model after A2A/AF took it over.

I hope Tom doesn't mind, but for those who have never used Tom's flight dynamics with the AF Corsair, for the sake of not knowing what to modify, simply install these, as they are all already setup properly and cover all three variants (remember to save/re-apply all of your repaint entries).

[DaveB]

You're a star sir

One aspect of the AF Corsairs FD that I've never liked (and has to some degree, spoiled what is a lovely model) is the darned damping. Thanks very much for this

ATB
DaveB

[gray eagle]

For the flight dynamics with the stock AF Corsair, I use those released by Fliger747, available here in the SOH file library, the file name: Air File for Milviz_A2A Corsair.zip (or you can simply search for Fliger747 and it will come up at the top)

Those were the flight dynamics which were originally supposed to be released with the aircraft (when under the management of MilViz), but for some reason were vastly modified in the AF release. However, they don't work correctly, as they are when downloaded, as some of the sections of the Aircraft.cfg file have to be changed to reflect some of the changes to the model after A2A/AF took it over.

I hope Tom doesn't mind, but for those who have never used Tom's flight dynamics with the AF Corsair, for the sake of not knowing what to modify, simply install these, as they are all already setup properly and cover all three variants (remember to save/re-apply all of your repaint entries).

Was able to fine the air file for Milviz with a little help from the attached youtube video otherwise, I would of been floundering around in search mode till cows come home

Couldn't believe that switch of air files but you explained what brought about the switch.




Links mentioned in this video...
Excellent FSX fix for crash-to-desktop problems with Windows 8: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/449247-f...
A2A Simulations: http://www.a2asimulations.com
A2A Accu-Feel v.2: https://a2asimulations.com/store/inde...
Alternate flight model for A2A F4U (not used in this video): Search for username ' fliger747 ' and look for filename ' Air File for Milviz_A2A Corsair.zip ' on this page - http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums...
Forum discussion on modifying panel.cfg file of another aircraft: http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/archive...
RealEngine v1.4: http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.p...

Simulator: Microsoft Flight Simulator X (FSX)
Scenery: Default FSX
Weather: Default FSX
Aircraft: A2A (Aircraft Factory) F4U Corsair
Aircraft Model: Default
Aircraft Livery: VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat" (http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.p...)
Cockpit Mod: By Scott Armstrong (http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.p...)
Audio Mod: F4U-1A HD Audio by Skysong Soundworks (http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.p...)
Nav Gauges Mod: My customization using gauges from freeware DC-3 by Norm Hancock (http://www.dc3airways.com/our_fleet/f...)
ATC Network: PilotEdge (www.pilotedge.net)

[roger-wilco-66]

Great link collection!

Here's another one, for a weathered cockpit:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...d=117&id=18212

And there's another one with the obligatory honey-photo I never uploded, which I'll do if there's interest:

[Bomber_12th]

For anyone looking for some inspiration on where to fly these, based on reality:


Airpower Unlimited, the company that restored the FG-1D's featured in a few of my repaints (Gary Kohs/Factory Fresh, Texas Flying Legends/Kathleen, Olympic Flight Museum) is based at the Jerome County Airport in Idaho.

When the Gary Kohs/Factory Fresh Corsair was purchased by Provenance Fighter Sales, it was based at French Valley Airport, CA, and visited the Chino airshow in 2007 and Nellis AFB in 2006.

The Vintage Wings of Canada Corsair is based at the Gatineau-Ottawa Executive Airport in Quebec.

The Friedkin family/Comanche Fighters Corsair painted in VMF-214 "Blacksheep" markings is based at their private airfield Comanche Ranch, in Eagle Pass, TX (which is included in FSX, but is very basic).

The Naval Air Reserve Minneapolis FG-1D of course was based at Wold Chamberlain Field, what is today Minneaoplis-St. Paul International, but I've also got a photo of another NAS Minneapolis Corsair visiting MCAS El Toro, CA in 1949.

The Olympic Flight Museum Corsair is based at the Olympia Airport in Olympia, WA.

The Texas Flying Legends Museum Corsair is based at Ellington Field, in Houston, TX, but also travels all over the country each year, including stops at Wiscasset, Maine and Minot, ND, and many more.

[gray eagle]

Great link collection!

Here's another one, for a weathered cockpit:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...d=117&id=18212

And there's another one with the obligatory honey-photo I never uploded, which I'll do if there's interest:

Put me down for a YES!!

[gray eagle]

For the flight dynamics with the stock AF Corsair, I use those released by Fliger747, available here in the SOH file library, the file name: Air File for Milviz_A2A Corsair.zip (or you can simply search for Fliger747 and it will come up at the top)

Those were the flight dynamics which were originally supposed to be released with the aircraft (when under the management of MilViz), but for some reason were vastly modified in the AF release. However, they don't work correctly, as they are when downloaded, as some of the sections of the Aircraft.cfg file have to be changed to reflect some of the changes to the model after A2A/AF took it over.

I hope Tom doesn't mind, but for those who have never used Tom's flight dynamics with the AF Corsair, for the sake of not knowing what to modify, simply install these, as they are all already setup properly and cover all three variants (remember to save/re-apply all of your repaint entries).

John,

I am a bit confused here. The Air File for Milviz_A2A Corsair.zip contains just one air file while the fliger 727 zip contains three air files that are for the 3 different variations.
Which one do I use? The header for in the aircraft.cfg (F4U1-A_milviz_A2A.zip) = Milviz Corsair V 1.04

fliger747_corsair_fde.zip = 3 folders with seperate corsair.air files.


EDIT:

I think I have it sorted out.

The F4U1-A_milviz_A2A.zip contains
aircraft config file that contains:

Milviz Corsair V 1.04

[fltsim.0]
title=Corsair
sim=corsair
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=white
kb_checklists=
kb_reference=
ui_manufacturer="Milviz" <<<<<<<<<<<< Miliviz?
ui_type=Corsair
ui_variation=test


While the fliger747_corsair_fde.zip
Has Three aircraft cfg files (One for each folder or model of the corsair) and reads:
fltsim.0]
title=Corsair 1D 1 <<<< This entry changes with appropriate model of corsair
sim=corsair
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=VF-84
kb_checklists=
kb_reference=
ui_manufacturer=Chance Vought
ui_type=F4U-1D
ui_variation=VF-84
ui_typerole="Single Engine Prop"
ui_createdby="Aircraft Factory" <<<<< Different then ^ file.
atc_airline=Navy
description=Chance Vought F4U-1D
atc_id=167
atc_flight_number=167
atc_heavy=0
atc_id_color=0000000000
visual_damage=0
ui_typerole="Single Engine Prop"
ui_createdby="Milviz"
atc_airline=Military
atc_type=F4U-1A
atc_model=Corsair
description= Chance Vought F4U-1A
atc_id=f4u000
atc_flight_number=v1.01
atc_heavy=0
atc_id_color=0000000000
visual_damage=0


So, I guess the fliger747_corsair_fde.zip is the one to use, yes? I tried this one and when it lands, the tires plant on the runway without a bounce.

[Bomber_12th]

Gray Eagle,

The Aircraft Factory Corsair, when it is installed, has four separate folders within the SimObjects/Airplanes folder, and these include a folder for AF_F4U-1A, a folder for AF_F4U-1C, and a folder for AF_F4U-1D, being the three different variants. The Fliger747 flight dynamics files which I've attached, only come as one version (to cover all of the variants), but you must place each appropriate set of files in each folder so that they apply to each variant (each has slightly different Aircraft.cfg files because of different paint schemes/models - and that is the only difference).

When modifying Tom's FDE file to work properly with the AF Corsair, the contact points, cockpit viewpoint, and a couple of the reference points (weight and balance section) have to be changed, and that is what I did and provide as attached above, but I also kept the same paint scheme entries as they are in the original product Aircraft.cfg files.

[skyhawka4m]

we need a late model F4U corsair....hint hint........F4U5 variants

[skyhawka4m]

4 bladed prop blur for inflight would be nice also...even on the three bladed prop.

[gray eagle]

Gray Eagle,

The Aircraft Factory Corsair, when it is installed, has four separate folders within the SimObjects/Airplanes folder, and these include a folder for AF_F4U-1A, a folder for AF_F4U-1C, and a folder for AF_F4U-1D, being the three different variants. The Fliger747 flight dynamics files which I've attached, only come as one version (to cover all of the variants), but you must place each appropriate set of files in each folder so that they apply to each variant (each has slightly different Aircraft.cfg files because of different paint schemes/models - and that is the only difference).

When modifying Tom's FDE file to work properly with the AF Corsair, the contact points, cockpit viewpoint, and a couple of the reference points (weight and balance section) have to be changed, and that is what I did and provide as attached above, but I also kept the same paint scheme entries as they are in the original product Aircraft.cfg files.

John,

So I did the right thing and used the fliger747_corsair_fde.zip file for the FDE fix. I just wanted to make sure.

[big-mike]

Great link collection!

Here's another one, for a weathered cockpit:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...d=117&id=18212

And there's another one with the obligatory honey-photo I never uploded, which I'll do if there's interest:

I´m very interested.
Mike

[Dumonceau]

There is no such thing as too many honeys! I'm interested!

D.