Hooligan Deuce

[DaveQ]

what version are you using? In the tweaks I uploaded to the library last week, this coding is included, see panel.cfg :


Note that the burner should only kick in when the throttle is over 90% and engine RPM is over 97% (CN1)

Sorry Henk, my mistake and thanks for the correction. I copied over the relevant bits but not the panel folder. I just find it easier that way.

DL - I knew the 4FJ286 was the AMARC code but hadn't twigged the photo was after going into storage. Another conundrum is which Deuce was it? The photos purport to be of either 56-0996 or 998. Joe Baugher gives a different AMARC code for 996 but 998 isn't mentioned. I've numbered it 998 in the data block.

[mikewmac]

Sorry Henk, my mistake and thanks for the correction. I copied over the relevant bits but not the panel folder. I just find it easier that way.

DL - I knew the 4FJ286 was the AMARC code but hadn't twigged the photo was after going into storage. Another conundrum is which Deuce was it? The photos purport to be of either 56-0996 or 998. Joe Baugher gives a different AMARC code for 996 but 998 isn't mentioned. I've numbered it 998 in the data block.

Dave,

I think it was 56-998.

Here is the history of 56-996 and 56-998 as listed in the Convair F-102A/TF-102A Delta Dagger section of the Forgotten Jets website ( http://www.millionmonkeytheater.com/F-102A.html ):

F-102A 56-996

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*2nd FIS.
*86th FIS.
*32nd FIS.
*12/2/1964: Returned to the USA in "Operation Hardway II".
*Washington ANG 116th FIS.
*Idaho ANG 190th FIS.
*California Air National Guard?
*Montana ANG 186th FIS.
*2/24/1974: To storage at the AMARC bone yard.
*4/1981: Converted to PQM-102B as "828".

F-102A 56-998

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*325th FIS.
*323rd FIS.
*47th FIS.
*Hawaii ANG 199th FIS (154th FG).
*Arizona ANG 152nd FIS.
*Connecticut ANG 118th FIS.
*South Carolina ANG 157th FIS?
*6/1970: Bailed to NASA Lewis Research Center in Cleveland, OH for tests as "N617NA" and also as "N637NA".
*6/1974: To storage at the AMARC bone yard.
*1/1977: Salvaged.

[DaveQ]

Thanks a million Mike. A brilliant website!!

DaveQ

[mikewmac]

Thanks a million Mike. A brilliant website!!

DaveQ

Dave,

You are welcome. I'm glad that you found that website helpful. In my youth I spent 6 years working closely with F/TF-102A's and their pilots, so needless to say it is my favorite fighter. As indicated in my avatar I actually got to ride in and actually fly the TF-102A along with the T-33A on occasion.

[DaveQ]

Dave,

You are welcome. I'm glad that you found that website helpful. In my youth I spent 6 years working closely with F/TF-102A's and their pilots, so needless to say it is my favorite fighter. As indicated in my avatar I actually got to ride in and actually fly the TF-102A along with the T-33A on occasion.

.....and you appear to be wearing what looks suspiciously like an orange flight suit, LOL!! Like this one in fact...

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Ditched the AMARC number and will upload later. And there will be plain tanks for those who want them.

DaveQ

Edit - now uploaded here and Flightsim.com

[delta_lima]

Just downloaded it - had a 2 min flight before making dinner for the kids. It is truly awesome. Thanks for taking this on, and to all the mods on this thread for their great tweaks. No dust going to get collected on this bird for a long time, now ...

DL

[mikewmac]

.....and you appear to be wearing what looks suspiciously like an orange flight suit, LOL!!
DaveQ

Dave,

Yes, I was wearing an orange flight suit when that photo was taken back in 1968.

Here is a copy of the original Polaroid photo that shows the orange flight suit much more clearly.

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[ColoKent]

....wish we had a "tub" to go along with the -A....but I recognize the market would not be huge!

Kent

[Prowler1111]

....wish we had a "tub" to go along with the -A....but I recognize the market would not be huge!

Kent

To be honest..there is a buzz inside RAZBAM to make me do a F-102 Redux package that would include a "tub", of course, it would be complete new package, but i´m really busy! we´ll see

Prowler

[mikewmac]

....wish we had a "tub" to go along with the -A....but I recognize the market would not be huge!

Kent

Kent,

I agree totally. Having flown a "Tub" years ago I'd love to see a flyable version for FSX also, but doubt that one will ever become available.

[mikewmac]

To be honest..there is a buzz inside RAZBAM to make me do a F-102 Redux package that would include a "tub", of course, it would be complete new package, but i´m really busy! we´ll see

Prowler

Prowler,

Wow! That would really be great. :salute:

[William Njurmi]

I have troubles to get the Hooligan in order. I´ve rounded up the usual suspects but to no avail. Texture folder is in the clean version. It does not show up right and in sim it has no textures.

[JensOle]

check the links in the texture.cfg file. That will fix it.

[William Njurmi]

check the links in the texture.cfg file. That will fix it.

Indeed it fixed it: I copied the links from 112FIS although they appeared identical, but it worked. Thank you.

[JensOle]

Good to hear!

There are several different texture folder variations out there and some may have to update the entries in the texture.cfg file to point to where the rest of the common textures are located. Just to open it it notepad and do the changes.

I have jsut finished completely redoing all the panel lines and rivets for the front fuselage texture to 2048x, including new bump files, and it sure does looks good. The usaf star has also been redone in accordance to the TO 114. I hope to have some screens later today.

[JensOle]

The Minnesota bird is the test repaint for new hi res panel lines, rivets and other details. New alpha channel and bump textures have also been made to reflect the new detail level. The work with the decals itself have also continued with among many things a new usaf star. The metal areas of the intake lips and burner cans have been made more reflective.

Thanks to Dave Q and Henk for the support and feedback during the painting process.

[William Njurmi]

Looks terrific. I can´t understand why the developer does not do this. Obviously these improvements would promote sales. Its a new life for this beauty.

[JensOle]

Thanks!

That is certainly true, many older models like the RAZBAM F-102 still holds up pretty good against the latest "standard", but 1024x textures just does not cut it anymore, the detail loss is to large. On the other side maybe the companies are thinking more of cost vs money return before they spend any more time and money on updating a "old" model.

A bit strange to see that the FDE has not been sorted out after that many years... posts in this forum way back made by the developer clearly states that they were working on an update (which never happend). Sadly this is true for many promissed updates for payware products.

Luckily Henk came to the rescue with his FDE and general update.

[WarHorse47]

HU: RAZBAM F-102A "Deuce" tweaks v2.zip is available in the Library now. Have fun with it
- Improved handling/performance
- Afterburner kick-in "bang" sound
- Engine smoke
- Simulated dragchute drag effect
- Simulated fuel dump
- New pilot notes quick reference
- New VC and external camera views
- A few texture fixes/updates

One question on the tweaks. I noticed that the aircraft shakes a lot with the brakes applied. Other than releasing the brakes, is there anything that might reduce or eliminate this? Thanks much.

[hschuit]

One question on the tweaks. I noticed that the aircraft shakes a lot with the brakes applied. Other than releasing the brakes, is there anything that might reduce or eliminate this? Thanks much.

?? I can't replicate this. I assume you are talking about lining up on the runway, then applying full throttle with brakes on? When I do this there is no shaking, the jet just starts to creep forward.

[WarHorse47]

?? I can't replicate this. I assume you are talking about lining up on the runway, then applying full throttle with brakes on? When I do this there is no shaking, the jet just starts to creep forward.

My default flight is a cold start and my local airport. After changing the aircraft to the Deuce and starting the flight, the first view is the VC. First thing I do is set the brakes and make sure the throttle is at 0, then do a Ctrl-E for startup.

After the engine start, I proceed to set my radio and nav, and turn on the lights. As I'm sitting on the tarmac doing this the VC is shaking - kinda realistic I guess, but it makes it tricky to click all those switches. Once everything is set, I release the brakes and the shaking stops. I then advance the throttle and taxi out to the runway for a takeoff.

When the brakes are set, the shaking in the VC returns. It's not noticeable in spot view.

I'm going to take a guess and assume it's related to the changes in the MOI settings. I've seen something similar in FS9, but only in flight.

If you (or someone) would, do this. Setup your flight with a cold start - everything shut down, and start the Deuce as I indicated.

[hschuit]

WarHorse47, I did what you described and there was indeed some vibration but I only saw it this time because I was looking for it. Not sure what causes this vibration to be so severe in your case. You can always try the original MOI values if that works for you I guess.

cheers, Henk.

[WarHorse47]

WarHorse47, I did what you described and there was indeed some vibration but I only saw it this time because I was looking for it. Not sure what causes this vibration to be so severe in your case. You can always try the original MOI values if that works for you I guess.

cheers, Henk.

It's probably more obvious to me due to the size of my monitor. Like I said, perhaps its more realistic?? Thanks for the response.

[William Njurmi]

Somebody just built a home for the North Dakota Deuce: http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php...en&DLID=176419

[DaveQ]

Here's one I've been working on this week, with a great deal of help from mikewmac; one of his old ships, 56-1427 of the 134th FIS, Vermont ANG, that participated in the William Tell '72 fighter contest. The 134th were so proud to be selected to compete, the 4 aircraft were specially repainted and polished to a very high standard, hence this will be published with a high specular shine and an alpha channel to simulate its apprearance at WT 72.

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DaveQ

Very many thanks Mike - she don't look too bad do she??