Awwwww! I'm sorry Oleboy!
I'm not.Originally Posted by Cloud9Gal
Awwwww! I'm sorry Oleboy!
You sound as if directing that towards me?Awwwww! I'm sorry Oleboy!
...I've read where others around here have had issues about the place over the years. Something about permissions. Editing files without approval. Etc..etc.
I'm just posting to let everyone know
Bad blood?
Oh no no! I probably should have said, "I'm sorry to hear that" instead.
Thanks for letting us know!
I despise these little boxes for any kind of get-to-know-someone topics. I can relate
Cloud9Gal, is not a simmer, Her husband is. She was trying to be sympathetic with you. She wasn't making any inferences.I despise these little boxes for any kind of get-to-know-someone topics. I can relate
I on the other hand am a simmer and I have heard about NorCal Prop club. Although I didn't and never went there, some of the developers have had problems with that site. As I recall, permissions and the free use of other people's creative property was the reason some developers had problems with them.
Were you associated with NorCal Prob Club?
John
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well, dang. I still needed to pick up the JF Cessna 152...oh well.
Regarding C9gals comment. I knew that. I was just making a remark about these little boxes we all type in. How difficult it is to judge meaning in what is said. That's all. I meant no harm either.
You ask if I was associated with NorCal. Negative. I stumbled on that place long ago while searching for an aircraft. Google brought up a lot of indirect stuff, That's where I read that there were hard feelings towards them for what they do..and how they go about it. I read that on a site in the UK somewhere.
I was merely posting what I'd found to let interested parties know (shrug)
I never heard of the site, but I hate to see a site close. I can understand fully that r/w stuff does take priority. Especially if one is off to go play with cars.But I have also seen this many times before and after a break of a few weeks, or a few months, or maybe even a year, the old simming bug will bite again, and they may return. More have left and made a come back, than those who have left forever.
Don
I'm really not sorry to see this site go. They caused a lot of problems for many developers by uploading their own "repackaged" versions of aircraft without the developers permission, usually with files missing and other features altered.I never heard of the site, but I hate to see a site close. I can understand fully that r/w stuff does take priority. Especially if one is off to go play with cars.
Don
Swa se ðeodkyning þeawum lyfde
While I have been good at staying out of these sort of threads I'll make an exception here.
That group was not only well known for questionable releases, but also for their attitude when called out for it. No sadness here on the closing of that site.
...and nothing of value was lost.
I guess they finally took down that file of mine when they closed. Good riddance.
Let Being Helpful Be More Important Than Being Right.
Their calling dev's, "selfish aircraft designers" sums up their overall attitude.
So who cares if they close up shop
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OK. I didn't know their history. Seeing this opinion in a couple of the replies here, perhaps there are some who should go and stay gone! I hate people who repackage stuff against the designer's wishes. I've been dealing with that lately, though not at NorCal.
Don
Well look who came out to play?! Piglet!
I guess they forgot to tell you huh? I'm out of this world....
But if you REALLY want to know- Look up "Gastrocnemius & Soleus Muscles". Everyone has that "bump", even you. Sit on a chair, raise your leg off of the floor and flex your foot so it points to the floor, you should then see that same "bump".
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Well look who came out to play?! Piglet!
I guess they forgot to tell you huh? I'm out of this world....
But if you REALLY want to know- Look up "Gastrocnemius & Soleus Muscles". Everyone has that "bump", even you. Sit on a chair, raise your leg off of the floor and flex your foot so it points to the floor, you should then see that same "bump".
Hey I'm a fan of those legs!!! WOOOOHOOOOO! Let's not knock perfection
Ted
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James:
That freebie is still available in some of the other bazaars. Have a look around. Failing that, PM me, since I have it (original, intact installer), and I'm sure the devs would approve of such a transfer.
-Jon
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The other problem with NorCal Prop Club (besides using developers aircraft without their permission), was the absolutely terrible job they did of updating aircraft to work in FSX. I made the mistake of downloading their fix for the Antonov An-14 (before I knew it wasn't their own work) and was surprised by the inaccurate gauges they substituted for the non compliant ones.
I then downloaded the original aircraft and went to the trouble of designing custom gauges for it so that it looks and performs properly. NorCal Prop Club just hacked together their fixes and didn't even do them right! Respecting the original designers property, I have not uploaded my Antonov An-14 fixes to any sites.
Regards, Mike Mann
Looks like a calf muscle to me. I see them in the gym all of the time, and even have some of my own...although not quite as attractive. I guess people in the US who are in good shape are becoming the minority freaks of this day and age.
Site closed
Was the site just closed? When I first opened the post, I had not noticed the previous date, but I noticed C9gal's name. Although I never did know the reason for her leaving SOH, I miss her contributions. Plus, when I went through my last divorce, she offered me support. This is all off topic, I know. Just wanted to say I appreciated her posts and friendship. NC
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