Falcon 50 in FSX

[vonstroheim]

Update: No EPR gauge in a Falcon! No wonder it didn't work. So I'm reworking the engine gauge setup. Philippe sent me today a nice Oil temperature/pressure combination, thanks!. Then I'll relocate the AP... and will take it for a spin!

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VSI is back where it is supposed to be...

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[expat]

Replaced the "Welcome" plaque on the forward right bulkhead with a likeness of an AirshoFlightView video screen, found on most of the larger corporate jets which provides flight tracking and video entertainment.

[fsafranek]

Vonstroheim and Expat, I like how you guys are both working on two panel styles. One more in keeping with the original and one modernized with some glass instrument upgrades. It's going to be really cool to have the option to fly one or the other, or both.

Was there ever a paint kit made for this aircraft?
:ernae:

[expat]

Thanks Frank. Yes there is a paint kit I believe on flightsim. Would be great if people with painting talent here did some further "continuation" paints of this one. Lots of more contemporary paint schemes of this aircraft on airliners.net.

[n4gix]

Replaced the "Welcome" plaque on the forward right bulkhead with a likeness of an AirshoFlightView video screen, found on most of the larger corporate jets which provides flight tracking and video entertainment.

Unless my memory has really slipped, there was a "gauge" in that space. If so, you could easily put a customized "moving map" display based on the default GPS...

[N400QW]

Shameless plagiarism of an eight year old paint by Ron Hamilton (Ron, if you are out there, apologies for not seeking permission - but this 8 year old paint has held up well - thanks!!) of the Archer Daniels corporate jet. Have done a number or alternatives for my own use simply using - shamelessly as well - MS Paint.




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Is this the correct Alt/VSI config in the attached screenie below? I am fooling around with three different panel versions: analogue - like vonstrohiem's; fully digital a la Collins Pro line on the 50EX; and in between as per below, using F1 PC-12 EADI/EHSI.


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Ha ha, had just started repainting way back then and those old F50 repaints bring back memories.
Had a discussion w/Rob Young a few years back about Eaglesoft rebuilding that aircraft for FSX.
He was supportive of the idea then but we've had too much on our plates to get to it.

Who knows, maybe we'll get some time to at least start on it in 2011.:cost1:

[expat]

Unless my memory has really slipped, there was a "gauge" in that space. If so, you could easily put a customized "moving map" display based on the default GPS...

Went to bed last night thinking, "if only there could be a way to animiate it. ." and then read this!

What a great lead - thanks. Right, back into the workshop . .

[expat]

Hmmm. Don't see anything obvious in the gauge file. Can't see anything in the manual/docs that indicates this space can be manipulated, i.e. by a gauge. But there is something in the way the texture looks that it could be ..

[vonstroheim]

Added flaps and speed brake levers... and some autopilot knobs and switches in the console...

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No news from Fred Banting and Yannick Lavigne. God knows I'm trying hard to reach them! Rob Young did reply... Any tips? We might publish this panel anyway (almost ready) and add this note along with the files:

"Despite intensive research and best intentions, it was not possible to reach some rights holders of this aircraft. We ask holders of such rights who feel they have not been properly acknowledge to please contact us."

Do you think that should take care of the copyright issue? What else can be done? What are the real risks, if any?

[n4gix]

Hmmm. Don't see anything obvious in the gauge file. Can't see anything in the manual/docs that indicates this space can be manipulated, i.e. by a gauge. But there is something in the way the texture looks that it could be ..

Apparently my memory is more shot through with holes than I realized. I finally found my "Falcon 50" on one of my oldest "FS Machines" in my LAN and opened the panel.cfg file. There isn't anything there, as you've discovered.

Oh well, sorry for sending you on a wild goose chase! :ernae:

[falcon409]

. . . . ."Despite intensive research and best intentions, it was not possible to reach some rights holders of this aircraft. We ask holders of such rights who feel they have not been properly acknowledge to please contact us."

Do you think that should take care of the copyright issue? What else can be done? What are the real risks, if any?

Considering the longevity of this airplane, you'd have to consider that some of the original designers have either passed on or at least have left the Flight Sim community for other endeavors. You have made a gallant effort to contact everyone who participated in it's early release and so the disclaimer above should suffice on the off chance that someone will miraculously reappear after all these years the instant this is released (isn't that always the way it happens, lol).

[fsafranek]

Considering the longevity of this airplane, you'd have to consider that some of the original designers have either passed on or at least have left the Flight Sim community for other endeavors. You have made a gallant effort to contact everyone who participated in it's early release and so the disclaimer above should suffice on the off chance that someone will miraculously reappear after all these years the instant this is released (isn't that always the way it happens, lol).

I concur. As long as you...

1) acknowledge in the documentation the work of others that is included (and use only freeware items) and
2) don't make any money from it

... you are covered.

That was the base rule of the FreeFlightDesign Shop when I and a handful of others started it years ago -- always credit the original author and don't make any money from it.
:ernae:

[vonstroheim]

Fred Banting replied today! Thanks guys! One more left...

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Anybody has seen such an autopilot ? What are these knobs and switches do?
Mr Sicard, you might have an idea...

[vonstroheim]

Mr Lavigne replied at last, and gave us the ultimate green light for this panel fix. Thank you sir. So with Fred and Rob earlier approvals, we're ready to roll!

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So, where to upload a "beta" version so we can maybe adjust it a bit before a more final release? I've checked the add-on library section in SOH website, is this the way to go?

(This Aéronavale repaint is my own variation of the one made by Martial from frenchairforce.fr... Anybody interested in creating a brand new repaint?)

[falcon409]

. . . . .So, where to upload a "beta" version so we can maybe adjust it a bit before a more final release? I've checked the add-on library section in SOH website, is this the way to go?. . . . .

Yes, despite some inherent problems with the downloads area, it's still quicker I think than flightsim.com or Avsim. Also, will this upload be the entire airplane or just the panel beta? If it doesn't include the entire airplane, where can we download the aircraft as you show it in your pics?:salute:

[OleBoy]

I would, if at all possible, like the fact of downloading the whole package as one entity rather than having to mess with a recipe :ernae:

[vonstroheim]

Also, will this upload be the entire airplane or just the panel beta?

No, just the panel and panel textures made with the help of the André the real mastermind behind this trick, and the xml gauges made with the invaluable help of Philippe Wallaert...

[simkid22]

Anybody interested in creating a brand new repaint?

I think the least I could do to thank you for doing more than I ever imagined would be done to this plane is to do a repaint or two.

[vonstroheim]

I think the least I could do to thank you for doing more than I ever imagined would be done to this plane is to do a repaint or two.

Wow, thank you!

I'll upload the panel tomorrow in the Add-Ons library, hope I'll figure out how to do it!

[fsafranek]

Wow, thank you!

I'll upload the panel tomorrow in the Add-Ons library, hope I'll figure out how to do it!

And if anyone still needs the base aircraft you can get it via the red links at the bottom of the page linked to below. (At least visit their page first rather than linking directly from here to their server to download :salute It's a cumulative process. Start with the "Fal50c2.zip" base model. Add the "Fa50pch2.zip" fix pak. And finally the FS2004 update. And then the FSX panel updates.

http://www.virtualairforce.ch/index....afts&Itemid=59

Outstanding work on all this vonstroheim!
:ernae:

[vonstroheim]

Thank you Frank, and thank you to all the people involved who helped me find the original authors (the hardest part!) and supported this modest project.

Here it is! Version 0.9 beta...
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...39&linkid=2949

It' really no big deal, you should see the panel Isra have made from scratch for the F-5 Tiger and released last week after working on it 5 years!

Anyway, next step is polishing a bit the Falcon panel for a final release, and maybe some new repaints will materialize, and revised flight dynamics might be in the works...

[ega]

Thanks for the re-birth of this wonderful aircraft!

I installed it and works fine in FSX!

Many thanks to all involved in this project!

Regards

Edmundo

[fsafranek]

And if anyone still needs the base aircraft you can get it via the red links at the bottom of the page linked to below. (At least visit their page first rather than linking directly from here to their server to download) It's a cumulative process. Start with the "Fal50c2.zip" base model. Add the "Fa50pch2.zip" fix pak. And finally the FS2004 update. And then the FSX panel updates.

Just an addendum to my note above (can't seem to edit it to make the change) but the Falcon50_2k4.zip download gives you all you need before adding vonstroheim's v0.9 beta panel. You do not need to install the Fal50c2.zip" base model or the "Fa50pch2.zip fix pak.
:ernae:

[falcon409]

I am not normally a Business Jet or Tubeliner pilot, but your work on this panel has made me a fan of the Falcon50. It will be a permanent part of my active Hangar. Well Done!!:salute:

[Daube]

This plane will be a great addition to my FSX hangar, right next to the default Learjet (yes, I love it) and Alrot's Citation X.
Thanks a lot :ernae: