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    Project Opensky Find!



    I found the YAL-1 on the Project Opensky website. http://www.projectopensky.com/ I thought it unusual that nobody has mentioned it yet. Here she is coming out of Shemya (PASY).

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    That one looks nice. As far as i dont like big planes but i can this one is a fine looking one. Will give it a try in my hangar.

    Thanks mate for the HU :salute:

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    The readme states it is FS2004 only. How is it performing in FSX, does it have a DVC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Railrunner130 View Post
    I thought it unusual that nobody has mentioned it yet.
    http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...ad.php?t=37795

    Some other good Posky projects in there too!
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    Sorry i dont find any VC as i tried that out. A nice plane but the sound is from a default one and theres no VC. So far bad for me cause i fly only from VC. But with a bit of work it could be a beauty with good sound and VC. But i dont have that much wisdom to put that together.

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    I don't know a lot about Project Open Sky, what I do know is that they are an AI production house. They make some really nice models, but their main position is doing AI aircraft for Flight Sim. They don't normally do anything with the interiors although an enterprising individual could probably find a way.:salute:
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    Quote Originally Posted by falcon409 View Post
    I don't know a lot about Project Open Sky, what I do know is that they are an AI production house. They make some really nice models, but their main position is doing AI aircraft for Flight Sim. They don't normally do anything with the interiors although an enterprising individual could probably find a way.:salute:
    Errm, nope. They're are not AI developers. In fact, far from it. Their FDEs and models are amongst the best and most advanced freewares. Just the fact that some people might use them as AI doesn't mean they are made specifically for AI use. Hell, I've seen people using PMDG birds for AI. Quite ridiculous.

    POSky people have been around since FS2000. Long before any fancy overcomplicated overpriced buggy payware, there was the simple, neat and free work of Hiroshi Igami and Yosuke Ube. It's a real shame they chose to stay in FS9.

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    They do have a number of FSX models as well, now, which means you can alias in the default FSX (or another) VC model if you want one. I currently have POSky B737-600, -700 and -800 models installed, all of which are using the default B73NG VC and Ernie Alston's ISG1 FMC set.

    I don't fly them much, but they're available and work.

    I believe at least their CRJ-700 is also FSX, but couldn't tell you exactly which models are and aren't without looking on their site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavehpd View Post
    Errm, nope. They're not AI developers. In fact, far from it. Their FDEs and models are amongst the best and most advanced freewares. . . . . .
    I stand corrected. I've never had any interest in Commercial aircraft, I know their aircraft have been used for AI, I assumed that's all they did and "yes" I understand that just because an airplane is used for AI doesn't mean that's all it's good for.
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    I normally don't go into these flying tubes, but because I worked on the project with the Directed Energy Lab at Huntsville before I retired, I'm natuarlly interested. But it seems that it's strictly a texture. Where would be the 747 that it's based on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavehpd View Post
    Their FDEs and models are amongst the best and most advanced freewares.
    Models yes, but the FDE is hugely disputed.

    I personally find their 737 FDE awful, so I've merged it with Kittyhawk's 737NG one. It offers a much better experience.



    Quote Originally Posted by IanP View Post
    I believe at least their CRJ-700 is also FSX, but couldn't tell you exactly which models are and aren't without looking on their site.
    The CRJ7 is native, the new CRJ9 isn't (yet) and the CRJ2 never got updated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjoern View Post
    Models yes, but the FDE is hugely disputed.

    I personally find their 737 FDE awful, so I've merged it with Kittyhawk's 737NG one. It offers a much better experience.
    To be honest, I haven't followed any of their work since they officially announced they won't be doing FSX addons nearly four years ago. I'm not sure who does their FDEs nowadays. But all the files done by Warren (also one of the founders of CLS) were nothing less than spectacular. Their A330, for instance, was spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helldiver View Post
    I normally don't go into these flying tubes, but because I worked on the project with the Directed Energy Lab at Huntsville before I retired, I'm natuarlly interested. But it seems that it's strictly a texture. Where would be the 747 that it's based on?
    The fuselage is modified appropriately to accurately reflect the YAL-1. The real YAL-1 is based at Edwards AFB. More info below-

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAL-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helldiver View Post
    Where would be the 747 that it's based on?
    You can find the full package here, Helldiver:

    http://www.projectopensky.com/index....s&showfile=944

    As for Posky's FDE's; I think they represent how we expect heavy aircraft to fly, but do not represent how heavy aircraft actually do fly. The only airliners in my inventory that feel 'right' to me are the CS 727 & 757 (Coincidentally also the only payware airliners I have and that's only because they were on sale). Most 'heavies' are way to sluggish for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavehpd View Post
    But all the files done by Warren (also one of the founders of CLS) were nothing less than spectacular. Their A330, for instance, was spot on.
    I can only speak about Warren's 737 FDE and it was like flying a brick and that's certainly not what a 737 is supposed to feel like.

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    Project Open Sky lost?

    The Project Open Sky (Posky) web site is down since a few days... http://www.projectopensky.com/

    Anybody have some information? I know the story about the split with Free Sky Project, but even if the Posky web site was not updated since 2010, it was still a huge ressource of excellent aircrafts, repaints, etc...

    Free Sky (http://www.freeskyproject.com/) and Sky Spirit (http://www.flightinfo.jp/kaitou/ and http://<wbr>ssp.cyber-ninja.jp/) are still online, but I hope all the original Posky files are not lost...




    Posky 737-700 (native FSX) with Air New Zealand Holidays repaint by Timothy Clark (avsim).

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    How do you put the default 747 VC to this YAL-1 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessie r. View Post
    How do you put the default 747 VC to this YAL-1 ?
    Hi,

    First, copy the B747_400_interior model from the B747 and add this line to YAL-1 model.cfg
    interior=B747_400_interior

    Then copy/add the texture files to each YAL texture folder.

    You can use the default 747 panel or just copy/add the VC section to the panel.cfg you're using.


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    Thanks i'll try it now

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    Ludovic, here is the link to the Old POSKY Downloads Manager: http://www.projectopensky.com/index.php?app=downloads ...Don
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    Quote Originally Posted by fxsttcb View Post
    Here is the link to the Old POSKY Downloads Manager...
    Thanks Don - Yes good news the Posky web site is back online!

    While searching for some old Posky files, I found that the Sky Spirit 767 was converted to native FSX by Hiroshi Igami:
    http://ssp.cyber-ninja.jp/SSP2010Update.html

    So you'll need the original FS9 767 version here to build a complete aircraft...
    http://www.projectopensky.com/index....ads&showcat=18

    ...or here for some more japanese airlines:
    http://www.flightinfo.jp/kaitou/posky/ssp767v5/

    Here's a 767-300F cargo (model OSX763FV5_CF6-80C--LL.mdl). I'll merge it with the Captain Sim 767 interior (payware). You can try a Just Flight 757 Freemium interior merge (free!).




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    Quote Originally Posted by 1pepito2 View Post
    Hi,

    First, copy the B747_400_interior model from the B747 and add this line to YAL-1 model.cfg
    interior=B747_400_interior

    Then copy/add the texture files to each YAL texture folder.

    You can use the default 747 panel or just copy/add the VC section to the panel.cfg you're using.


    Peppy
    I must be doing something wrong, I followed the steps and I just keep getting a
    Visual model could not be displayed Project Open Sky-Boeing 747400F
    AL-1 YU message?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessie r. View Post
    I must be doing something wrong...
    Sometimes you need to restart FSX to see the effect of a change in a "model.cfg" file.

    And you need to adjust the eyepoint in the "aircraft.cfg" file. No miracle here, you'll have to find the right eyepoint by trying, testing, reloading the plane, etc... For a Posky 747-400 with the default 747 VC it might be eyepoint=-32.500, -2.000, 11.100, not sure with the Yal...

    Edit: The Yal 747 is not FSX native (OSYAL1A_V4.mdl), so this VC swap is not possible... Too bad... Only some 747-400 where converted to FSX... Here they are (scroll down):
    http://www.projectopensky.com/index....ads&showcat=69

    And here:
    http://sky.geocities.jp/SkySpirit201...-8FUpdate.html

    Some are very nice! Don't give up yet! This is the FSX native 747-400 V4 (Skyspirit OSX748V4_GENX.MDL):



    This is the FSX native 747-400F cargo (Posky OSX748FV4_GENX.MDL) :



    This is the Airborne Laser Test Bed YAL-1A (FS9 only so far)... weird...


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    yeah now nothing is showing up. The flight sim scenery with the airport is there but the plne is invisible

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessie r. View Post
    yeah now nothing is showing up. The flight sim scenery with the airport is there but the plne is invisible
    The Yal is not FSX native... it's hopeless...

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