Tried different settings and can only get 15 - 18 fps and a lot of stutter - or I lose what I bought it for - and this is on a high end system - will play with it more tonight - same settings and fly over heavy scenery elsewhere(NYC) and get 30 or better and smooth, almost all maxed
Might need to do the Autogen tweak to knowck out a few trees... This was a tip from the manual of Tongass X and may help here...Originally Posted by ShawnG
Make a backup copy of the existing fsx.cfg file, then open it with Notepad or Wordpad. Scroll down to the [TERRAIN] section and insert the following two lines:
TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_TREES_PER_CELL=2000
TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS_PER_CELL=1700
That and I do know something that hits my framerates hard in Tongass is if I have FTX scenery enabled still. Before I fly outside of Tasmania (AU Blue Demo), I switch to FSX default in the tool that came with the scenery or it messes with Tongass and also slows it down for me.
BTW...
Have you tried with GA and Airline traffic and ground airport traffic turned off just to see if that helps?
If they are handling road traffic in Alaska like they did in UTX Canada, you have to drop the slider for Traffic to about 7 as thier handling of cars on the road is alot heavier than the default in FSX. They added more cards and more roads with cars.
C.
Firstly, the best place to get support on Ultimate Terrain products is over at their support forum here.
Now on to the comments regarding performance impact. As noted in the dialog which appeared when you first ran the Ultimate Alaska Setup Tool, and in the manual, the default 'out-of-the-box' configuration is to have all its scenery enhancements enabled and cranked up to their highest feature level. This means that in the heavily populated areas such as Anchorage and Fairbanks, each residential house is its own object, placed for best fit with the terrain. This will tax a system more than the default FSX New York city for example.
Ultimate Alaska therefore has the most extensive set of configuration options of any of the Ultimate Terrain X series products to allow users to balance features versus performance based on their system both at a simple global area level and down to an advanced per-location level. Despite thus extensive set of options, it also implements a new "Preset" feature which allows quick changes to overall functionality without the need to delve into the advanced settings, and so offers a very simple method to control the balance of features versus performance for the majority of users.
So for users who are not too concerned about the highly detailed and accurate placed housing objects in the major cities like Anchorage and Fairbanks, and would rather have the general landclass based autogen placement of residential buildings to gain some performance because of this trade-off, then just select the AlaskaModels3 preset available to you. Simple as that.
Note that for the presets AlaskaModels1, AlaskaModels1Alt and AlaskaModels2, changing the autogen complexity in FSX or tweaking the autogen levels in your FSX.CFG will have limited use as the objects are not autogen. It would be the scenery complexity in FSX which will have more impact in those cases.
In general however, use the presets rather than moving your FSX scenery and/or autogen complexity settings from what you normally fly at to balance things.
For a lot more information on how and what the Ultimate Alaska presets do, along with explanation of how to balance performance versus features, check out the user guide which was installed with the product.
Jeff
Oh I wasn't complaining, or attempting to get tech support, I just followed the manual, and as I mentioned, the presets got me some better frames. As installed, however UTX Alaska was unflyable on my system in anchorage and fairbanks. I'm sure that folks who have the new i7's are doing just fine with it (I don't believe the "zero" impact line, but it's all good)
I am currently flying with zero air traffic, but I'm sure I do have some road traffic zipping around, I'll try capping that. I've heard of the per cell tweaks, but I don't think that's my issue, like I said, I can render the pine tree infested parts of the state just fine. All in all, I'm very happy to have Alaska again, and It was not my intention to bitch, but an honest answer is an honest answer, and all things considered, this is one of the more frame rate impacting sceneries I've installed. I don't think this is a surprise considering the notes in the manual.
Looks nice...(I will leave the comments about comparing this to FTX to myself, I don't want to be unfair)
Finally a product that does Alaska justice. This add-on is amazingly accurate to what I remember of Alaska.
Bill, the Kodiak is going to get a workout this weekend.
John
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I'm not sure that's real fair, Alaska X IS an attempt to do something new, and I applaud that, even if it doesn't agree with my machine. nobody's a bigger FTX fan than me, but all Texture flow is at this point as far as I'm concerned, is a youtube video and a marketing term. and my machine crawls at a couple of their more detailed airports too. I'm sure if FTX decided to accurately place every single building in their scenery areas with vector based buildings my machine would gasp for breath as well
Installed, and am slewing around checking everything out....fantastic; it's nice to have Alaska 'back' for the first time since FS9.....a long long time ago it seems...
Did some tweaking and read some hints and looks to run good - not locked at 35 but acceptable for my settings - Chris
I just wanted to report that I believe I got my frame rate issue sorted out. I was doing a few longer flights today while snowed in in PA (24 inches!) and noticed that all of my flights in UTX alaska were getting out of memory errors and crash to desktop after only 10-20 minutes of flight. This was only happening in UTX Alaska, but I was noticing some slowdowns in other areas of the world as well. So I added to /3gb switch to my boot.ini (didn't think that applied to me before, since I only have 2gb of physical RAM) This has apparently worked wonders since not I'm not crashing to desktop anymore, and I can get upwards of 50-60 fps when flying away from the urban centers. Anchorage is now flyable at 16-22 fps, and the rest is very smooth. I do think I will submit a post over at the support forums though because I'm still getting a lot of floating trees over the scenery at various points. I am now at least very much enjoying the scenery!
How is that done, please?:ernae:
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Chad (PAAQ)
http://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/inde...rev&oldid=4623
and read that as well, particularly if you have a 1gb vid card, because you can find your system isn't bootable (It's possible to inadvertantly dedicate all your memory to FSX and your vid card and leave nothing left for windows)
I just d/l'd and installed UTX Alaska. I fly for the va TCA Alaska and spend most of my flight sim time in Alaska so this add-on is great for me. I used the above mentioned autogen tweak from Tongass X, which I also have. I also used the enviromental preset AlaskaModels1alt. With my laptop, I'm getting 25+ fps just outside of Anchorage and in the high teens, low 20's while flying over Anchorage itself. For the amount of detail I'm seeing, I'm very happy with the performance.
Sounds good... please let us know your system spec. thanks Howard
Tongass by far
I agree. Obviously a much smaller area, but very well detailed and there's so much to discover. Do yourself a favour. Get Tongass now, save the pennies, and buy Alaska X later down the line. You won't be sorry.
"There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss"
— Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'
When you are about to venture out of Tongass, even along the edges, you will appreciate Ultimate Terrain; otherwise, it is a visually painful experience!
Cheers
Larry
Only thing I would add is if you fly for a VA that is flying alot of flights in Northern Alaska and not as much in the Panhandle. If you plan on being in the Glacier Bay area and North of that for your frieght and PAX flights, get UTX Alaska first. That way you have enhancements to where you fly the most.
Otherwise ya. Get Tongass and explore and as soon as you can, get UTX Alaska.
You would be VERY happy buying in either order regardless. Both products are first class.
C.
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