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  1. #24551
    I got mine.

    Eldred Flyer's Dream.

    Here is actual footage of it flying:


  2. #24552
    I figured you'd get it since it's from US. Hoping the magazine would throw off people.

    Chris

  3. #24553
    Well it is a twin boomer! Funny all those US post-war runabouts that never went anywhere.

    Check out the big tyres!


  4. #24554
    At the time, this was the largest landplane to date. One-off bomber from the late 1920's.

  5. #24555
    Can't believe nobody has hit on this yet. I have nothing in the pipeline ad a busy day tomorrow.....

  6. #24556
    Caproni Ca.90?

  7. #24557
    It is the giant Italian! Over to Mike.

  8. #24558
    Thank you, Kevin. Now here's a svelte runabout for the man about town.


  9. #24559
    One must assume that this aeroplane was both elegant and unsuccessful. There was no production of it beyond the prototype, which saw the light of day in 1937.

    There is surprisingly little information to be found, online, regarding this tourer. I've found only two references, that tell me no more than that it comprised a steel tube fuselage with wooden wings.

    Probably there is more information to be found in the printed media, particularly in a tome produced by the manufacturer's museum. However I do not have that and when I looked for it online, the few copies being offered for sale had a price tag of nearly 500 €. Too steep for me!

  10. #24560
    As I know no more about this aeroplane, beyond that mentioned already, I cannot offer any more clues and because no-one has taken a stab at it, perhaps it's time to draw a line under this one and move on. According to the internet the aeroplane is the Caproni Ca. 167. Open house, please.
    Last edited by pomme homme; October 7th, 2022 at 09:03.

  11. #24561
    Very little more info on the Ca.167:

    In the 1930s the skilled workers of Taliedo’s Aeroplani Caproni works were often called to build prototypes or unique aircraft for special tests or records. The Ca. 167 did not achieve production status, being a technical exercise on producing a monoplane trainer. The steel tube fuselage was covered in fabric and sheet metal, while the wooden wing had split trailing edge flaps.
    It remained a single prototype

    Chris

  12. #24562
    Thank you, Chris. Every little helps!

  13. #24563
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    In the style of the Caproni-

    The designer was known to fly gliders, but applied his talents to this nicely curvaceous powered monoplane.
    His son, not so much - he was very much a cubiste
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails SOH 2022-10-8.jpg  

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  15. #24565
    Wrong area, Dan, I fear. Rob had very generously provided a certain clue to the Rubik MSrE M-19, or Rubik R-02.

    The clue ? Rubik jr was the inventor of a certain cube puzzle of the same name, which small children can solve in five minutes ( but not me....)

    Here is a nicer pic -
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  16. #24566
    Wrong area indeed.
    I misinterpreted cubiste into Picasso, Spain etc.
    Oh well.

  17. #24567
    Looking at that photo again, it reveals something odd going on at the base of the vertical fin. It appears to be attached only at the extremities, with a yawning gap where the horizontal tail surface sits. Is this an illusion ? Perhaps someone has another explanation ?

  18. #24568
    I think this 'gap' is the result of masking the Hungarian colors in the photo
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    gX

  19. #24569
    Other photographs online don't appear to show the 'gap', or what looks like grass showing through it, so I wonder if the R-02 had a fillet, which slotted under the fin but above the horizontal tail surfaces, which had not been put in place on the day when the 'nicer' photograph was taken?
    Last edited by pomme homme; October 10th, 2022 at 05:00. Reason: wrote vertical, meant horizontal!

  20. #24570
    Maybe the horizontal surface had an adjustable angle of attack? I like Mike's suggestion better.

  21. #24571
    Here is my last comment on the matter - another nice clear pic, in which the tail looks perfectly normal ! Anyway, if Rob doesn't mind, may I proceed with another machine ?
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    Well, seems I don't need to confirm Lefty's solution, and I can't add to, nor reduce the 'gap', so all I can do is deliver the prize

    "To some the sky is the limit. To others it is home" anon.
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  23. #24573
    Thanks Rob. Time to get away from mono-flivvers, and back to the water !

    This one won't be going far in its present situation.....( despite the RATO tubes - )
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails boatie.jpg  

  24. #24574
    A true tractor boat!!
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    gX

  25. #24575
    I have never seen a flying boat crew in such deep concentration...on the ground!

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