The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

***srgalahad*** · August 5th, 2021, 09:11

Kevin, if you say so, it must be.

"Fortunately W.W. Gibson was not seriously hurt, and went on to build a much more realistic machine that flew several times in 1911 in Calgary. A further crash ended Gibson’s pioneering efforts."

https://www.bcam.net/the-early-birds/

***Moses03*** · August 5th, 2021, 15:01

Must be this time!

Back to the water...

**lefty** · August 5th, 2021, 21:24

That is the Piaggio P.10

**lefty** · August 6th, 2021, 00:58

I am 100% certain on the Italian beastie, and know Kevin won't be around for a few hours, so hope he'll excuse me for carrying on, with another floater, of more recent vintage...
Please proceed likewise when you get it, as I will be unavoidably detained today, it being Friday

**pomme homme** · August 6th, 2021, 01:31

It looks like a Monnett Sonerai (or Sonex) derivation on floats - but the problem is that I can find no evidence of such a creature having existed!

Edit: found it - it's the 2004 Sonex Amphibious Float Plane.

**giruXX** · August 6th, 2021, 03:47

What a surprise to see a mystery younger than 1960 from lefty! (mysterious

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***Moses03*** · August 6th, 2021, 04:34

Lefty with the Piaggio.

**pomme homme** · August 6th, 2021, 06:06

As Mike has notified a case of 'Friday indisposition' and I am reasonably confident that my identification is correct (having found, I think, the photograph that he employed), I'll take the liberty of going forward with another modern - well, modernish - light aeroplane.

**Dev One** · August 6th, 2021, 13:26

With that elliptical wing & shapely fin & rudder I would have said its a Claude Piel design, but I cant find a single seater like that.
Keith

***Moses03*** · August 6th, 2021, 14:01

Is that an American flag in the background? Mike rarely ventures over here for mysteries but you never know!

**pomme homme** · August 6th, 2021, 22:32

I don't know, Kevin, if that is the American flag hanging loose on the pole in the background - but if it is and that signifies the location, the aeroplane is a very long way from home! You are in the right country, Keith, but you've got the wrong designer. That depicted is the prototype of what is still a very popular 'home build' design in France.

**lefty** · August 7th, 2021, 01:11

Could it be a Nicollier Menestrel, Mike ? F-PKXO ?

**pomme homme** · August 7th, 2021, 01:30

It certainly could be, Mike, because it is the Nicollier HN.433 Ménestrel prototype F-PKXO. Over to Scotland!

**lefty** · August 7th, 2021, 02:30

Thanks Mike. Something silvery.....

**giruXX** · August 7th, 2021, 08:29

The Renard R.S.V. 22-230 Titan

**lefty** · August 7th, 2021, 17:26

That's the one, Uli. Apologies for late reply...

**giruXX** · August 7th, 2021, 23:19

hard to believe that this one is a first here, but I couldn’t find it

**pomme homme** · August 8th, 2021, 00:26

If it wasn't for the seemingly odd tail, I'd say one of the Salmson engined Comper Swifts.

**lefty** · August 8th, 2021, 00:54

Back in 2014, Uli !

**giruXX** · August 8th, 2021, 06:18

May I assume that this helps or should I reveal?

**giruXX** · August 8th, 2021, 11:04

it is in aerofiles

seven built

***Moses03*** · August 8th, 2021, 15:26

It's a Prest Baby Pursuit. Held a speed record at one time I think.

In Uli's defense, the search function can be schizophrenic at times.

Will press on with an unusual trainer...

**lefty** · August 8th, 2021, 22:50

Having decided that the North Korean markings were a red herring (Kevin would never leave a clue like that !) it was a question of working out which Ryan this was - the clumsy gear indicates PT-22 ?