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    There are some real screenshot "Artists" here! (Tips!)

    Hey Guys,
    Some of you know me as a "painter" who's been in the the 'biz for a while. While it's a talent I share with many great painters we all know and love, I am literally awestruck by the screenshot artistry that I consistently see in the Screenshot thread here.
    Let's be clear....I visit many flightsim sites, each with their own screenshot boards, but they absolutely pale in comparison to what I've witnessed here.

    I considered myself a screenshot artist before I ventured into actually painting them for the community nearly 2 decades ago (where does the time go?). I rationalized that every painter needs to be a proficient screenshot taker to properly showcase their work, so the two talents go hand in hand, but for the non-painters here who display their "Art", I give sincere credit to your talents and thoroughly enjoy your work! Trust me...I see in EVERY finely framed screenshot...the effort you put into getting it just right, and some leave me gob-smacked! I see the angle of the shot, the position of the camera, the time of day, the weather, and the impact each individually have on the outcome of the shot...it wonderful to see the effort.
    I KNOW that you just don't hit the external view key, whip the camera to a spot, hit "screenshot" and post here. I see all the careful planning you do (either consciously or unconsciously at this point), to get everything "just right" before clicking that shutter button.

    Post-processing or not? To me, this can be a contentious topic to "Artists"...but I view it this way: Every screen is going to see your work differently because every simmer will have different shader/monitor/GPU settings than you, so all you can do is process the screenshot to take out all the known artifacts and try to make it look as natural as possible. That's my view and I'm stickin' to it, hehe. It's really hard to deal with as a painter...because some colors just don't render well in the sim, and each sim does it a bit differently. Then there's PBR, non-PBR, etc. A classic example is KLM and the new Southwest blues. I'm currently painting both for P3d V5. I've tried the official RGB color tiles of each in the sim...and they render waaaaay too light in the sim. So its a lot of trial and error to get the color looking just right....in the sim. Probably the hardest thing to do as a painter (and the most frustrating as you'd love to just pop the real color on the plane and be done with it, LOL)

    To those who don't post-process (effects anyway....jpeg compression to tame the size of our creations...its a must or we'd bring this server to its knees, LOL)...and I'm seeing a totally unretouched "photo" that is on your screen....I tip my hat to you and your completely dialed-in settings.

    I recently had cataract removal surgery for both eyes, and have been painting (and seeing the world) through an increasingly yellow tint over the years...so after the procedure on my left eye 1st, when I covered each eye to see the difference...this is what I saw:
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    Hard to describe the feeling...but it was life-changing to say the least.
    Anyway, it is an absolute joy to now see the world how it really is, and the screenshot thread here is an experience to visit and see folks as crazy as me when it comes to aviation, flightsim and screenshot artistry.

    Should you all want to add to this discussion about the tools and tricks you use to achieve such artistry, please feel free to indulge your secrets here. I'll add my tricks and stuff later if I see you guys wanting to continue this discussion.
    Please only include actual screenshots as examples if you're demonstrating your tips as to not turn this into a separate "screenshot" thread from the official one. Shots of the tools and how you use them would be appropriate though.
    Last edited by Tom Clayton; November 14th, 2021 at 12:53.
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    Hey Steve, did we work together on something years ago? My memory is going, lol. Were you part of ScreenshotArt back in the day, started by Neil "Something", can't recall his last name? He worked at a flight museum, I believe. Anyway, I agree with you on this screenshot thread. When I start a flight, I start with the intention to take off fly around and land but every time I end up pausing and trying to find good photo opportunities, it's become a sickness, I tell ya, LOL.

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    I've noticed a lot of screenshots here are for new liveries so I am not sure if this forum is for that category, or is any aircraft scenario acceptable?
    T43

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twice43 View Post
    I've noticed a lot of screenshots here are for new liveries so I am not sure if this forum is for that category, or is any aircraft scenario acceptable?
    T43
    each flight sim forum has its own screenshot section.but these arent meant to only be new liveries/paintjobs or what ever ya wanna call em..you do a flight,take a cool screenshot,modify it or whatever,you happy with it? wanna share it?..then jest do it!...right y'all?
    from a fellow 43.......btw,i ran the number 43 on my race cars in the 80s and a few times in the early 90s...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twice43 View Post
    I've noticed a lot of screenshots here are for new liveries so I am not sure if this forum is for that category, or is any aircraft scenario acceptable?
    T43
    What Dave said! As long as it comes from MSFS/FS2020, it's welcome. I mostly fly/post stock aircraft like the DA62, but others are big fans of the historic birds. There are one or two that like the hair dryers, so you'll see a pic or two from them every once in a while.
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    I agree with the OP. As a serious landscaape photographer, I spend a lot of time trying to create art from my images. Many of the images I have seen in the Screenshot forums are, in my opinion, art.
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    Steve, your post is a pleasure to read. I agree with your observation and I find myself in what you write.
    I will add to your post that in my opinion the screenshot is similar to photography and uses the same rules.
    I will gladly contribute to your post because it is a subject that is greatly lacking on the forums.
    I would be happy to share my experience and help some of us.
    Richard

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