comptuer constantly crashes

[Joker]

Hi folks;
New guy here. Enjoying the potential of this sim but having great deal of problems. The OFF folks are really trying hard with excellent tech support to get me up and running. Figured I would post here as well in case anyone else has ideas.

My system is pretty high end. Dual Core 8400 Intell 3GGhz with 2 gigs ram and a pair of SLI NVIDA 7800GT cards. All defragged hard drives. Per OFF folks, I have followed all the graphics suggestions.

PROBLEM. I can't play for longer than a minute or so before the graphics lock up causing me to hard boot the computer..Control Alt Delete won't even work. Happens immediately when I hit the F5 Gauges key which look squished on top of one another. Otherwise, I crash after changing views etc. Like I said I have graphics turned down and that helped a little but in the end, I lock up at some point.

I am at 1024x768 millions of colors, most texture and graphics set to 2 or 1.I am patched to all the current versions of both CFS3 and OFF. Shouldn't I be able to play at full resolution and setting with my system. I used to run CFS3 that way? Thanks for any help you can lend..Great sim once I get using it properly. Two other friends waiting for my report to order as well. I guess I am the guinea pig to test first..hahahha. thanks folks.
Steve

[Siggi]

Latest graphics drivers? NForce drivers?

[Joker]

Yes, all up to date and even more graphic intensive sims are running fine. Like Frontline, COD5, DCS Black Shark, the works..no crashes.

[Giant2111]

Do you have patched CFS3 to 3.1 or even 3.1a? This is only to be done, when using the old cd`s. If you bought the value pack on DVD, then you don`t need to.

Regards

[Polovski]

Steve, do the steps in the email first, and set your screen resolution to the max your monitor allows in CFS3config. Best to do 1 step at a time remember.
OFF is definitely not CFS3 in terms of graphics. It's MUCH higher resolution textures, many more aircraft in the air with their high res textures. Sliders in OFF are not the same as CFS3 either

slider 5 in CFS3 = 3 in OFF.

[Wiens]

Heat issues?

Is your case, fans and card clean of dust and dust bunnies?

Kevin

[rabu]

Hi folks;
New guy here. Enjoying the potential of this sim but having great deal of problems. The OFF folks are really trying hard with excellent tech support to get me up and running. Figured I would post here as well in case anyone else has ideas.

My system is pretty high end. Dual Core 8400 Intell 3GGhz with 2 gigs ram and a pair of SLI NVIDA 7800GT cards. All defragged hard drives. Per OFF folks, I have followed all the graphics suggestions.

PROBLEM. I can't play for longer than a minute or so before the graphics lock up causing me to hard boot the computer..Control Alt Delete won't even work. Happens immediately when I hit the F5 Gauges key which look squished on top of one another. Otherwise, I crash after changing views etc. Like I said I have graphics turned down and that helped a little but in the end, I lock up at some point.

I am at 1024x768 millions of colors, most texture and graphics set to 2 or 1.I am patched to all the current versions of both CFS3 and OFF. Shouldn't I be able to play at full resolution and setting with my system. I used to run CFS3 that way? Thanks for any help you can lend..Great sim once I get using it properly. Two other friends waiting for my report to order as well. I guess I am the guinea pig to test first..hahahha. thanks folks.
Steve

Thankfully, you are one of the very few having problems. Most here are up and running with easy installs and on systems much less robust then yours.
I would say you have a problem somewhere that you have just over looked. You can start by reading through the sticky above, "Having Problems? and if that doesn't help, read through the FAQs on the OFF site. Still having problems, please come back.

[tonedog]

defo check your temp. i was havin fps problems with OFF and it wasnt until i checked my cpu temp i found out my pc was throttling back and causing probs

[Over50]

Hi folks;
New guy here. Enjoying the potential of this sim but having great deal of problems. The OFF folks are really trying hard with excellent tech support to get me up and running. Figured I would post here as well in case anyone else has ideas.

My system is pretty high end. Dual Core 8400 Intell 3GGhz with 2 gigs ram and a pair of SLI NVIDA 7800GT cards. All defragged hard drives. Per OFF folks, I have followed all the graphics suggestions.

PROBLEM. I can't play for longer than a minute or so before the graphics lock up causing me to hard boot the computer..Control Alt Delete won't even work. Happens immediately when I hit the F5 Gauges key which look squished on top of one another. Otherwise, I crash after changing views etc. Like I said I have graphics turned down and that helped a little but in the end, I lock up at some point.

I am at 1024x768 millions of colors, most texture and graphics set to 2 or 1.I am patched to all the current versions of both CFS3 and OFF. Shouldn't I be able to play at full resolution and setting with my system. I used to run CFS3 that way? Thanks for any help you can lend..Great sim once I get using it properly. Two other friends waiting for my report to order as well. I guess I am the guinea pig to test first..hahahha. thanks folks.
Steve

Have you tried disabling SLI and running with just one GPU? And are you running Vista or XP and which version..

[Joker]

You folks cannot believe the help I received from Powlovski today. We sent many many emails back and forth. Great person. I refuse to give up on this because when I was able to play for a bit this evening, it was awesome! I was able to do a mission, shoot down my adversary, and head for home. On return, I was switching views and I hit cockpit and bang...Lockup again. I did find my C drive was very fragmented. Probably from the installs and at least 12 lockups. OFF folder is installed on the D drive. Some things I have tried and I really appreciate all your tips and advice..You folks sound like a nice community here.

Have settings currently at: 1280x1024, millions of colors
All sliders at number 2 except for clouds at number 1
Tried SLI on and Off, same results
All temps are inline and normal
Relatively new computer in clean environment, no dust.
XP Service pack 3

Isn't there a feature in XP that when there is a crash, one can look up the log history and see what the cause was? I don't know where that was although I am fairly certain it is a graphic related problem. Please note, I can play for hours in all my other sims with no crash, and I will try again, but plain old vanilla CFS3 seems ok unless I find otherwise. Maybe it was the fragmentation? Will report more tomorrow. Thanks for the help everyone and especially the OFF team members behind the scenes.
Steve

All patched up to date in CFS3 and OFF

[Over50]

You folks cannot believe the help I received from Powlovski today. We sent many many emails back and forth. Great person. I refuse to give up on this because when I was able to play for a bit this evening, it was awesome! I was able to do a mission, shoot down my adversary, and head for home. On return, I was switching views and I hit cockpit and bang...Lockup again. I did find my C drive was very fragmented. Probably from the installs and at least 12 lockups. OFF folder is installed on the D drive. Some things I have tried and I really appreciate all your tips and advice..You folks sound like a nice community here.

Have settings currently at: 1280x1024, millions of colors
All sliders at number 2 except for clouds at number 1
Tried SLI on and Off, same results
All temps are inline and normal
Relatively new computer in clean environment, no dust.
XP Service pack 3

Isn't there a feature in XP that when there is a crash, one can look up the log history and see what the cause was? I don't know where that was although I am fairly certain it is a graphic related problem. Please note, I can play for hours in all my other sims with no crash, and I will try again, but plain old vanilla CFS3 seems ok unless I find otherwise. Maybe it was the fragmentation? Will report more tomorrow. Thanks for the help everyone and especially the OFF team members behind the scenes.
Steve

All patched up to date in CFS3 and OFF

Were it me I'd be physically remove one graphics card vs disabling SLI and see what happens. That and reverting back to XP SP2 if that's an option as well.

And yes, you can check Event Viewer via Control Panel | Adminstrative Tools

[Parky]

Go into Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Computer Management. Under system tools you'll find a feature called "Event Viewer". Take a look at both the "system" and "application" events. There may be a clue there as to what's goin' on.

Cheers,

Parky

[ivanmoe]

Can you generate a dxdiag log and post it to this thread?

[Parky]

Something else you can try as well. Click on "Start". Click on "Run" and in the window that pops up, type in "msconfig" without the quotation marks....then click on "Ok". That will bring you to the System Configuration Utility. Click on the "Startup" tab, and down in the bottom right, click on "Disable All". Then hit "Apply" and "Ok" That'll shut down all that mostly unnecessary stuff that runs by default when you boot your machine. You'll have to reboot for those changes to take effect......and you should get a message that reminds you of that.

Reboot......start the game up and take it for a spin. If it still crashes, you can go back in and re-enable all that stuff in the Sytem Config Utility, 'cause that ain't what's causing your problems. If the game runs smoothly with no lockups or crashes, it's a matter of figuring out which one of those startup apps is causing the conflict, and just disabling the one that's causing you grief. You can re-enable any that aren't if you so desire.

Just a note of warning. When you shut down all those startup apps, it'll probably kill any third party firewalls or antivirus proggies you're running and possibly some other useful utilities. It won't however, kill any real necessary system functions. It's up to you to figure out which apps should be running and which ones shouldn't.

It's worth a try just to see if something in that startup configuration is causing a conflict. You have to start somewhere.

Hope you get it sorted....and by the way, welcome to the forum.


Cheers,

Parky

[Joker]

Geez, all good tips and BTW, I read everything on the FAQ as well. Thanks for the welcome. Here is the result of the DXDiag, deleted all the other stuff, just kept the abbreviated graphics stuff..Unfortunately a fresh defrag did not help. Played for awhile and after about 5 minutes of play it locked.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 2/16/2009, 00:31:47
Machine name: STEVE-GAMING
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.080814-1236)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: NVIDIA
System Model: 132-CK-NF78
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2046MB RAM
Page File: 392MB used, 3546MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 7800 GT
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0092&SUBSYS_C5183842&REV_A1
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.7519 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/16/2008 13:01:00, 6108928 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 5/16/2008 13:01:00, 6557408 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-43D2-11CF-AD46-13E500C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0092
SubSys ID: 0xC5183842
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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[Joker]

Parky;That should be my next experiment tomorrow..I am too wiped out now after a day of this...Gotta make a living tomorrow..hahaha

In the meantime I did an event log but I don't understand it. I will cut and paste some here..I apologize in advance if it is too long and boring:

Application Errors:
Type Date Time Source Category Event User Computer
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:15 AM SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:12:53 AM avg8emc None 1 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:12:19 AM LVCOMSer None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:12:19 AM Creative Service for CDROM Access None 105 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/16/2009 12:02:24 AM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/15/2009 10:50:56 PM SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/15/2009 10:50:51 PM avg8emc None 1 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/15/2009 10:50:10 PM LVCOMSer None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/15/2009 10:50:09 PM Creative Service for CDROM Access None 105 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 7:00:53 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 7:00:53 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 7:00:53 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 7:00:53 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 7:00:53 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 7:00:53 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 7:00:53 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 7:00:53 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 7:00:53 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 7:00:53 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 7:00:53 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 7:00:53 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 7:00:53 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 7:00:53 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 6:53:06 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 6:13:40 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/15/2009 6:05:55 PM None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/15/2009 5:58:01 PM SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/15/2009 5:57:58 PM avg8emc None 1 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/15/2009 5:57:29 PM LVCOMSer None 0 N/A


System errors:
Type Date Time Source Category Event User Computer
Information 2/16/2009 12:15:06 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:15:06 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 Steve STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:14:00 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:14:00 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 Steve STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:30 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:30 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 LOCAL SERVICE STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:22 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:17 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:17 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:17 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:17 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:16 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 Steve STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:16 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:16 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:16 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:16 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:16 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:16 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:13:16 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM STEVE-GAMING
Error 2/16/2009 12:13:16 AM Service Control Manager None 7000 N/A STEVE-GAMING
Information 2/16/2009 12:12:08 AM eventlog None 6005 N/A STEVE-GAMING

[Joker]

Oh and BTW, I just found a newer nVidia driver....from January of this year. I downloaded it but really need to get some sleep before I get into this deeply again...Tomorrow is another day. Will report here. Night all.

[ivanmoe]

Geez, all good tips and BTW, I read everything on the FAQ as well. Thanks for the welcome. Here is the result of the DXDiag, deleted all the other stuff, just kept the abbreviated graphics stuff..Unfortunately a fresh defrag did not help. Played for awhile and after about 5 minutes of play it locked.

------------------
System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 2/16/2009, 00:31:47
Machine name: STEVE-GAMING
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.080814-1236)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: NVIDIA
System Model: 132-CK-NF78
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2046MB RAM
Page File: 392MB used, 3546MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 7800 GT
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0092&SUBSYS_C5183842&REV_A1
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.7519 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/16/2008 13:01:00, 6108928 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 5/16/2008 13:01:00, 6557408 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-43D2-11CF-AD46-13E500C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0092
SubSys ID: 0xC5183842
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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A couple of observations...

For an XP/SP3 system, your physical memory usage is VERY high. It's more than three times greater than that used by the XP system that I'm writing this message on. That suggests that you've got something pretty major running in the background, but I don't know what it might be. Here's a guide as to how to shut down non-gaming programs that are appropriating the memory:

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;331796

Second, it appears that your monitor's max resolution is 1600x1200. You've got the horsepower to run it that high, and that's exactly what I do, if I were you. You also need to check for updated display drivers.

Finally, your cut and paste doesn't include the sound adapter info, which is always a source of concern when trying to troubleshoot these problems. For that matter, your post is a little thin on system specs, and it'd really help if we knew more about your gear.

BTW, thanks for your patience.

[Joker]

Hi All. Tonight I ran a new nVida driver and was able to fly/die for about 10 minutes, then locked up. This was the application even log abbreviated of course. Wow, it was great while flying though. I have to get this to work.

My system is XP sp3
E8400 Dual Intel, 3.0GHz
2GB Ram
Dual evga nVidia GeForce 7800GT running SLI
Audigy2 ZS Soundcard
19 inch CRT Viewsonic monitor able to run 1600x1200 only at 60hertz though, little tough on eyes at that refresh.
Most time I run 1280x1024 at 75 hertz

My Audigy driver appears older and I will now go look for a newer one of those to install. First though, I am going to try running with nothing running in background as suggested here.

Thanks all for enduring through all this. :faint:



CRASH LOG if it is of any help: ( locked up at approximately 11:09 or 11:10)

2/16/2009 11:10:45 PM SecurityCenter Information None 1800 N/A STEVE-GAMING The Windows Security Center Service has started.
2/16/2009 11:10:35 PM avg8emc Information None 1 N/A STEVE-GAMING The description for Event ID ( 1 ) in Source ( avg8emc ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details. The following information is part of the event: Service started.
2/16/2009 11:09:58 PM LVCOMSer Information None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( LVCOMSer ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details. The following information is part of the event: Service started.
2/16/2009 11:09:57 PM Creative Service for CDROM Access Information None 105 N/A STEVE-GAMING The service was started.
2/16/2009 11:03:26 PM Error None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details. The following information is part of the event: 1.
2/16/2009 10:55:16 PM Error None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details. The following information is part of the event: 1.
2/16/2009 10:48:42 PM Error None 0 N/A STEVE-GAMING The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details. The following information is part of the event: 1.

[Winder]

To me its either a Ram issue - if you have two dimms take one out and try one at a time or a GPU mem issue - harder to test.

HTH

WM

[James "Taffy" Jones]

I have a few more thoughts, Joker.

Are you overclocking at all? If so, try lowering to stock speed and running OFF again. If it runs stable, reduce your overclock a bit.

Have you tested each of your memory sticks? Assuming you have more than one, remove all sticks except one and see if OFF runs without crashing. Check each stick. OR, use a memory testing program to stress your memory to make sure it runs without errors.

Before you do any of that, do you use a program like EndItAll2 or AlacrityPC to end background programs that may be hogging system resources before starting OFF? If not, I recommend using one. EndItAll2 is simple to use, while AlacrityPC has more features but is somewhat more complex. Both programs are free. You can find EndItAll2 here: http://www.docsdownloads.com/enditall-1.htm You can find AlacrityPC here: http://alacritypc.kensalter.com/

[Over50]

Hi All. Tonight I ran a new nVida driver and was able to fly/die for about 10 minutes, then locked up. This was the application even log abbreviated of course. Wow, it was great while flying though. I have to get this to work.

My system is XP sp3
E8400 Dual Intel, 3.0GHz
2GB Ram
Dual evga nVidia GeForce 7800GT running SLI
Audigy2 ZS Soundcard
19 inch CRT Viewsonic monitor able to run 1600x1200 only at 60hertz though, little tough on eyes at that refresh.
Most time I run 1280x1024 at 75 hertz

My Audigy driver appears older and I will now go look for a newer one of those to install. First though, I am going to try running with nothing running in background as suggested here.

Thanks all for enduring through all this. :faint:

Will ask again: Did you try running the game with one 7800 GT installed to see if the crash problem ceases? And if the crash still occurs, then trying the game with the other card alone? Point being, this is a sure way to eliminate both of your video cards as the crash problem as well as a SLI/driver issue with the game.

[BadKarma1001]

I had the same problem at the beginning and then i realized that the resolution in the OFF-csf.config didn´t matched my screen resolution. Since i switched that so that they are equal i had no problems with OFF running at all.

[Joker]

Hi folks..Thanks for the continued tips. First off:
James. Thanks. I am not overclocked at all. Memory checks out in diagnostic programs. Runs fine in all my other sims.

Over 50. Thanks. Trying it on one card is my next try. I just ran with all startup items off and I was able to fly for 15 minutes and then it locked up. Rebooted and got in game again, still with non essential items off and I only could get into the sim for 5 seconds before it locked. sigh.

Karma: Thanks I have also found amongst other things that if the resolution does not match my monitor, wacky stuff happens like the titles of OFF to be shifted to the right and stuff. This is a definite problem. My monitor will take 1600x1200 but only at 60 hertz..That is too much flicker for my eyes..1280x1024 at 75hertz works best and I have both monitor and sim set for that.

Oh and I upgraded my graphics Nvidia drivers and Audigy2 ZS drivers. All working well in other sims. I am going to re-check all the Nvidia recommendations from the OFF website, set them to that and then try again. If I crash, I will then do OVER50's suggestion of yanking one card and trying it alone, even though they both work fine in other sims. But, at this point, I will try anything.

......to be coninued. Thanks again.
Steve

[77Scout]

or a GPU mem issue - harder to test.

He has two cards running SLI...maybe he can try running each card alone (pull the other) as a test?